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   01/05/2008, 11:30 PM
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Linnets North/South you decide!

On the face of it, with four northern clubs coming down from the Blue Square Premier, you would have thought that the FA would have to put us into Conference South to make up the numbers.

However, because they have to accommodate so many northern clubs, they will have to transfer at least one club from Conf North to Conf South even if they put us in the Conference South. As they cannot avoid doing that, then although they may have to move Worcester City to Conference South, they may not want to do that whilst leaving Redditch in Conference North as it is only a few miles from Worcester (relatively speaking). If they choose to move Worcester and Redditch as a block from North to South, then they do not need to put us in Conference South and we would then end up in Conference North. Following me so far?

A further complication is Halesowen. If the Yeltz win the play-offs, then this is yet another club that could in theory be in the Conference North, and we could then end up in Conference South even if they move Worcester and Redditch as a block.

Ultimately, who knows what they will do! In the season just ended, they were able to have all midlands clubs in Conference North, but next season this will not be possible and there are all sorts of things they could decide to do when working out how to split things. I think it is on 14th May that the FA Leagues Committee decide.

If it was left down to the club we most definately would be in the South. Lets hope the FA don't decide the league formats by drawing numbered balls out of a lotto machine, because the last time that happened we ended up being drawn home and away on the same day in the Cup! Trevor Brooking ballsing it right up! lol.


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   02/05/2008, 11:17 PM
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Cambridge City FC have said they intend to lodge an appeal to the Football Association about the decision made by the Conference Management Board, to demote them from the Conference South. This came after Milton Road failed a category B ground rating inspection on 18th March. The Club lack the facilities that a category B ground rating requires. If unsuccessful in their appeal the CMB says its rules require that Cambridge City be relegated due to the Club not achieving a category B ground rating.

To view the comprehensive list of ground requirements go to http://www.thefa.com/GrassrootsNew/League/GroundGrading/

This has no bearing on King's Lynn FC as recent improvements at The Walks have brought the ground up to a category A rating, I believe.When Oldham visited us in the Cup we had an attendence of 5,444 with crowd segregation in place so I can't see us having a problem there, especially when you think that Blue Square Premier Clubs average gates between 900 to 3,000.


 


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   03/05/2008, 8:31 PM
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Further more to the above, considering what teams like Histon have done in recent years, I firmly believe King's Lynn have a massive chance of going up to the Conference Premier next season. By the sounds of it only a few minor ground improvements need to be carried out (mainly to the floodlights). We have a very useful squad and with four good quality new signings (as well as trying to sign Baines and Hoyte permantely) we should be able to mount a decent challenge. We have a very good manager who despite endless and unjustified criticism has got us promoted after a hugely impressive unbeaten run in the league. He deserves the fans utmost respect.

The atmosphere at Merthyr shows that we can be united as one and we should push on as one. Lets get a few more good players on board, up the attendances at The Walks and give the Conference a bash!!!
 
Unfortunately with Team Bath winning today our chances of being put into the Conference North increase.

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   07/05/2008, 1:37 PM
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I see nothing in either division to worry Lynn. Conference North looks slightly easier to get out of it...even if some of the away trips are little unappealing. Would be great to play Boston and I've always wanted to see Blyth Spartans.
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   07/05/2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: Linnets North/South you decide!
Arnold,Cave-Brown,Bexfield,Halliday,Jarvis (x2?),Smart  - thats a pretty good side you'll have for the new league next season !!
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   07/05/2008, 11:49 PM
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 GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary wrote:
Arnold,Cave-Brown,Bexfield,Halliday,Jarvis (x2?),Smart  - thats a pretty good side you'll have for the new league next season !!

In due fairness to those mentioned above I think they would be looking at a slightly higher level of football then the Conference! Cave-Brown has already had a spell with us last year following his rehabilitation from an injury he picked up at Torquay whilst playing in the League Cup for City. Smart will probably go back to MK Dons following their promotion - as for the others I think most will get contracts at Football League Clubs. Though I'm sure we have a few irons in the fire with experience of this level and above perhaps!


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   09/05/2008, 1:55 PM
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 City74 wrote:
I see nothing in either division to worry Lynn. Conference North looks slightly easier to get out of it...even if some of the away trips are little unappealing. Would be great to play Boston and I've always wanted to see Blyth Spartans.

Why Blyth Spartans??? huh Huh? [:^)]

Pink'un quote: Burton's Blue Square Premier striker Daryl Clare heads a list of potential high profile recruits strongly linked with a summer move to the ambitious Norfolk outfit.

This player has good credentials having won the Golden boot twice as leading Conference scorer for Boston and Chester and at 29 he's an established player. Having read his profile he would be a useful addition to the squad.

Ken Bobbins said: “I can assure you if we stay together as a board we are not looking to consolidate,” he said. “We will go all out to win this league. We know that is a tall order but failing that we will be looking to be in or around the play offs. The board doesn't feel the jump is that big between the two levels. It would be far different if we were going into the Blue Square Premier itself.

“That is a serious jump because clubs there have had television money for a couple of years which helps to get established and build from a position of strength. Really for me there is very little difference between that level and most of the clubs in League Two.”

I like the board's optismism however a word of warning from newly promoted Lewes:
Lewes re-emphasise new prudence after promotion in Club statement

The Club statement reads: "Too many clubs have in the past paid a costly penalty both on and off the pitch for overstretching themselves." It also adds: "Despite the obvious opportunity of progress offered by a national league system, clubs have to realistically assess their own particular ability to play at a higher level." 

Does this sound all too familiar to Norwich fans?

Some other names 'tentatively' linked to us have been Paul Warne from Oldham, Darren Stride from Burton and Lee Blackburn released recently by Crawley and another ex City trainee under Webb.


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   15/05/2008, 10:09 PM
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The league line-up for the 2008/09 season was confirmed by the FA League's Committee yesterday. Worcester and Redditch have been moved into the South and King's Lynn join Boston in the North. This line up has to be approved by the Conference Board at their AGM on the 7th June.

The completed line up for the Blue Square North 2008/09 season is:

AFC Telford United
Alfreton Town
Blyth Spartans
Boston United
Burscough
Droylsden
Farsley Celtic
Fleetwood Town
Gainsborough Trinity
Gateshead
Harrogate Town
Hinckley United
Hucknall Town
Hyde United
King's Lynn
Nuneaton Borough
Solihull Moors
Southport
Stafford Rangers
Stalybridge Celtic
Tamworth
Workington

This decision to place us in the North does seem rather odd to me as most of our squad is southern based. Also with the poor travel network combined with the reality of the journeys by road and rail to the North West it doesn't make much sense! Trips down to London and the South East would be preferable options to going to the bleeding North West.

If you look at Worcester and Redditch and the road network they have access to it's easy for them to go north or south so it's ridiculous to stick us in the North. We have one f'ing motorway remotely 'close' to us and it isn't the M1 or M6.

There must be some understanding that this was a difficult decision to make. Two teams needed to be placed in the South. If the Committee had only put Redditch in the South, that would mean no local derbies of interest in the Midlands and that was the one reason the FA were worried. The fact is Redditch were the most southerly located team in the North and had to come down.

That caused a problem and is probably the main reason why both Redditch with Worcester were paced in the South. Worcester had applied to move down for whatever reason, and that in part solved some local issues. They now have each other to play, as well as Bath City, Team Bath and Newport County not too far away.

The problems came with us. Basically it had to be Worcester and Redditch or Lynn and Boston. In the end they went for the southerly teams. Choosing us and Worcester/Redditch would have taken away all the local games in the midlands without any reward.

It's a tough decision, and a bitter pill to swallow. But in the end, they made the decision which doesn't leave one midlands team in limbo  with all the derbies gone...whilst being sort of replaced with some nearish rivals, which would have happened if we'd have gone South. My biggest worry with moving North is the style of play. I am told its much more long ball then passing it about, which I dont think suits us. 
Then there is the issue of travel, and the very poor access to Northern clubs from Lynn, and after the travelling we have had to do in the Southern Prem, I guess the Club could feel hard done by. Also the fact that a lot of our players are southern based, so the squad could need a complete re-vamp which would then mean loosing players and not benefitting the Club in any way.
Not that I'm not happy with the thought of going North as it is so much better then the thought of the Southern Prem again, but it would be nice to have things go the way we want for once rather then the league officials NOT seeing sense.
I suppose we'll just have to bite the bullet and get on with it, and fire our way into promotion contention next season.
(I remember the Hucknall game, when they were flying in Conf North at the time and we wooped 'em! So hopefully more of the same next season in the North!)



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   16/05/2008, 1:37 PM
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Halifax Town's recent demise enabled Hucknell to escape relegation from the North which in turn prevented Altrincham being demoted from the BS Premier. This neccessitated the need to switch Lynn to Northern football. There will know be two Linnets squads in the same league as Burscough have the same nickname.

Farsley Celtic, Stafford Rangers and Droylsden all take up their new league positions through relegation whilst Hucknall Town were reprieved. King's Lynn, Fleetwood and Gateshead all move into the Blue Square North through promotion.


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   18/05/2008, 11:08 AM
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Does that mean we're all now going to be classed as dirty northern b*stards !!. I've never considered myself to be a northerner before !
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   21/05/2008, 12:16 AM
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 GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary wrote:
Does that mean we're all now going to be classed as dirty northern b*stards !!. I've never considered myself to be a northerner before !

NO! As we are the original southern b*stards!! Smile [:)]

On another issue which should be resolved on Sat 7th June, Boston Utd have today come out the Company Voluntary Arrangement they found themselves in, but this is in breach of Conference rules and they could be set for demotion. An appeal has taken place and has giving them a chance of being reprieved. Fingers crossed, as I'd like to have a real derby game at the Walks with a huge crowd packed into the old ground. Boston fans don't mind what league they are in, aslong as they're saved from closing.

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Boston United chairman David Newton has released the following statement…

Mr Newton said: “I am very pleased to inform all fans that, following the Creditors Meeting that was held earlier today in Leeds, Boston United Football Club is now out of the Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) that it entered into on May 5, 2007.

“Two further payments are to be made to within the next 12 months, and if the development at Tattershall Road takes place in the future, a further payment may be made out of profits from the scheme. The development at Tattershall Road was the original mechanism for settling the CVA, and HMRC insisted on the inclusion of a ‘profit share’ from any potential future development. There is no obligation to carry out the development, and as we have already stated, a development would only take place if it benefits Boston United Football Club (BUFC), and is not detrimental to Boston Town Football Club. The former owners of BUFC would not benefit in any way from the development of the Tattershall Road site.

“I am also pleased to confirm that Lavaflow Limited is now 100 percent owned by Chestnut Homes Limited (CHL). Lavaflow Limited owns 76 percent of Boston United Football Club. Therefore in simple terms, the majority of shares in BUFC are now owned by CHL.

“This is a significant day in the history of the club, and is one more step along the road to rebuilding the club.

“We are currently trying to resolve our league status for next season. The Football Conference maintain that we are in breach of their rules, which could lead to the expulsion of the club from The Conference. We are currently preparing an appeal, which will be submitted to The Football Association, and we are hopeful of a positive outcome. I will let the fans know as soon as we have a decision.

“We have made great strides this season, and I urge all those fans who wish to buy a season ticket to do so as soon as possible to ensure that they receive the early discount. I believe that we will be playing football in Blue Square North next season, however if we are relegated, fans that have bought season tickets will be compensated should ticket prices be reviewed.

“The issue of the ground is likely to be resolved in court in July. I believe we have a very strong case, and today’s exit from the CVA will significantly strengthen that case. After that hopefully we can start to plan for the future, at last!

“I would like to thank all the fans for the fantastic support they gave the club last season, but I urge you not to be complacent, we still have a long way to go. I realise that money is very tight at the moment, but without your continued support we will not be in a position to move forward. Please continue to support us as we push on with the rebuilding of your club.

“I have been very encouraged by the support of local businesses, in particular those that had turned their back on the club due to issues with previous owners, however they are now realising that there is a new era under way at the club, and are starting to support us again. We are also grateful for the support of Boston Borough Council and look forward to working with them as we put plans in place for the future of the club.

“The club is a vital part of the community, that is why we are involved, so please help us to ensure the long term survival and prosperity of Boston United for the people of Boston and the wider area.”

Thank god we have a sensible bunch of people running our club, but as has been seen with Scarborough and now Halifax these things happen as a result of gross financial overstretching.


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NUNEATON BOROUGH are set to go into administration in the next 48 hours, leading to almost-certain relegation from the Blue Square North. Nuneaton yet another club facing relegation threat! If this carries on we won't have anyone to play come August!

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Nuneaton Borough director Ian Neale has said the club could be relegated to the Southern League if they enter administration this week.

Officials of the cash-strapped Blue Square North outfit are due to meet with insolvency lawyers on Tuesday.

"It's a matter of what punishment we're awarded by the league," Neale told BBC Coventry & Warwickshire.

"The Conference has a different type of ruling to the Football League, we could be facing possible relegation."

Director Ian Neale is meeting legal advisers and insolvency experts in Birmingham today to see what can be done to take over the club's £750,000 debts and the outcome is not expected to be good.
Although the club have yet to receive any official communications from the Football Conference following their meeting to discuss Boro's predicament last week, it is believed they have decided to relegate the club to the Southern League as per league rules if the administrators are called in.
Neale, who wouldn't comment on the outcome of today's discussions, said: "We have plans in place to tackle each eventuality but we must move on as, at the moment, the club is just treading water. If we get relegated we need to decide whether to contest the ruling and get involved in a costly court battle we might lose or invest the money into the club.
"It would be purely a commercial decision if we did the latter and one not made from the heart. Things happen in my construction business that's not right but you just have to get on with it."
On that theme, Neale, who is currently in the process of completing a deal to buy the club, yesterday outlined interim plans to invest and improve Boro's home at Liberty Way whatever happens in the coming days.
He said: "I confirm our full commitment to Nuneaton to ensure we will do everything in our power to give it a bright future.
"As part of our commitment we are taking up and relaying the pitch while entering into a maintenance programme to give us a first class surface for the 2008-2009 season.
"We have agreed to reduce the pitch size to 100m x 70m in line with the team management's requirement and also commencing this week work starts on the new memorial garden adjacent to the river."
Neale also announced the Boro Social Club will close down on June 5 for around three weeks to refurbish and rebrand the New Boro Sports Bar.
Admission prices for next season are to be announced by the end of this month, later than usual due to the current financial position of the club.
At around the same time, further information regarding other major changes and developments at the club will be made.
Neale added: "We thank all the fans for there patience at this time. It's obviously a difficult time but the aim is for a bright future and sustainability. I am confident we can achieve that objective with the fans' support, and I would like to take this opportunity to thank them for their support."


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This is getting more absurd by the day!!! NUNEATON BOROUGH's relegation fears were confirmed last night - they will be forced to drop out of the Blue Square North next season.

Director Ian Neale said after talks in Birmingham yesterday that the club would go into administration following a board meeting later this week, triggering the demotion. But the Liberty Way club do not know at what level they would be able to compete in non-league's pyramid for the 2008-2009 season as they struggle to solve their financial crisis.

Neale explained Boro were now consulting the Football Association about the best course of action they can take but admitted that, with debts totalling more than £750,000, administration is the only option left open to them to ensure the long-term survival of the club.

A despondent Neale, who met FA officials along with the club's solicitors and accountants in Birmingham yesterday, said the club would hold a board meeting later this week to inform directors of the situation.

"As soon as we go into administration the Conference will automatically relegate us but we shall take our punishment and look to take the club forward from there," said the Nuneaton-based builder, who came to the club in late March as major shareholder along with five other new directors and is in the process of buying the club.

"Once we are relegated and out of the Conference's jurisdiction we come under the Football Association and they will decide at what level we shall start the 2008-2009 season.

"But the FA Compliance Department has been extreme-ly helpful in guiding us along the right lines and will steer us towards what they think is the best direction for the club."

Neale continued: "One of the biggest problems are Conference rules. They offer no incentive for clubs who are struggling with insolvency to try to sort out their problems without being kicked out of the league.

"I believe the Conference will revise these at their annual general meeting next month."

Boro could have held off going into administration and kept their place in Blue Square North next season but it would have only delayed the inevitable, acknowledged Neale.

"We could have chosen that route but all we would be doing was delay relegation. At least now we can look to rebuild the club and take it forward."

On top of that REDDITCH and KING'S LYNN have called on the Football Association to re-think after both sides fell victim to the Leagues Committee’s restructuring plans this week.

Norfolk-based Linnets wanted to play in Blue Square South following promotion from the BGB Premier but were instead placed in Blue Square North – a decision which forced Midlands side Redditch into the southern half of Step 2 against their will.

That has upset Reds boss Gary Whild, who says his club will be hit in the pocket.

“I’m not happy about playing in Blue Square South and it’s especially disappointing when you consider that King’s Lynn wanted to be in the south anyway,” he said.

“The main problem is that it affects us financially. Round our area we’ve got Nuneaton, Telford, Tamworth and Solihull so we’re going to lose a lot of local derbies that generate good revenue for the club.

“That money is massive for us and we’ll only have a single one in the south. We’ll still have Worcester because they’ve moved with us but after that we’re looking at Newport who are 100 miles away.

“The other problem is the timing of it. I’ve already sat down with players and agreed contracts thinking we’ll be in the North. What if all the teams relegated next year are in the South? Do they move you back over again? You can’t ask players to commit themselves to the club when it’s yo-yoing around the divisions.

“Considering this is a relatively new league, this smacks of a lack of forethought. But who am I to argue with our friends at the FA?”

In my opinion common sense should prevail!

King’s Lynn chairman Ken Bobbins backed Whild’s stance and has called on the FA to see sense and switch the two teams around.

“Redditch want to stay in the north and that’s totally understandable,” he said. “We want to go down south because the majority of our players are southern based. There are some long trips to places like Gateshead and Workington and the road network means they are very difficult to get to.

“So, logically, you’d have thought that someone at the FA would have said ‘let’s have some common sense here and put the two teams where they want to go’.

“It seems a real shame that we don’t get a say. You would’ve thought that the league would try to satisfy the needs of the teams – that’s what the league is there for.

“We’ve made representations but it seems set in stone. I’m hopeful that common sense will prevail and they’ll switch us round but I don’t hold much hope.”

With Gateshead and Fleetwood promoted from the Unibond, as well as northern trio Farsley Celtic, Droylsden and Stafford coming down, Worcester City have also been shunted into Blue Square South.

Apparently neither Redditch or Worcester actually wanted to play in the South! Confused [8-)]

Worcester chairman Dave Boddy admits he was resigned to being moved but will seek assurances from the FA that the Blues won’t become a yo-yo club.

“Although this is the first time this has happened to us the fear of being moved south has hung over us for four seasons,” he said. “That’s given us a major problem with player recruitment because you can’t give any assurances as to where you’ll be playing.

“Every player we’ve got lives north of Worcester – some are based in Lincolnshire and Manchester. As things stand, we’re set to lose three contracted players for no other reason other than they can’t manage the extra travelling.

“We’ve accepted that we’ll be playing in the south but we’ll now be looking for assurances from the league that we aren’t going to be bounced between the divisions.”

FA Leagues Manager Mike Appleby said: “If Redditch came to us with a suggestion of a swap with King’s Lynn, we would listen to it. The problem is that it would leave Worcester City out on a limb. You can’t just take one club’s views into account.”

These are just some 'local trips' we would make if we were in the BS South, Bishop Stortford, Braintree Town, Chelmsford City and Thurrock. All 1-2hrs max with easier road and rail connnections from Lynn - just going down to Ely and back up to Peterborough by train to start most of these monumental treks up North takes at least 1.5hrs to start with, it's just sheer stupidity!


 


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Football Conference officials have confirmed to BBC Radio Lincolnshire they want to throw Boston United out of the league, but the Football Association will now have the final say on the matter.

See here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7412706.stm
 
Another stressful two week wait for them until the AGM to see if common sense prevails with the Conference Board or laterly the FA. The Conference rules do seem fasical at best with Nuneaton director Ian Neale saying he thinks they will be changed at the AGM. Lets hope so for everyone's sake or it's a final kick in the teeth for doing right instead of wrong for poor old Boston. If not then the situation will be Halifax gone/Nuneaton and Boston sent packing with all three relegated sides reprieved. In this league it seems that where you finish in the league doesn't matter it's all about financial stability.

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NUNEATON Borough's expulsion from the Blue Square North could come as early as Monday after director Ian Neale admitted administration cannot be avoided.
With debts of around £1million crippling the club, insolvency proceedings seem inevitable, and now the Football Conference have confirmed that they will enforce the appendix E ruling that if a club enters administration during the close season, they will not be admitted back into the Blue Square leagues for the next campaign.
Neale told Evening News Sport: "We are in consultation with the Football Conference and, unfortunately, we can't now avoid an insolvency procedure, so we have been told we will be removed from the Conference leagues.
"We are discussing things with the Football Association now to find out what league we will be playing in.
"I would imagine it would be Monday or Tuesday of next week (that we know for sure)."
It is likely that Boro's predicament will result in them demoted to the Southern League, but it still remains to be seen at which level of the pyramid they will find themselves.
There is the possibility that the Blues will drop down two divisions, meaning they could find themselves either in the Midlands Division or the South/West Division of the Southern League.
However, Neale will not be cutting his losses at Liberty Way any time soon, even if the club do face a season of trips to clubs like Soham Town Rangers, Slough Town and Truro City.
He revealed that he is still completely behind the club - whatever their future holds - and is taking a very hands-on approach to making the best of their situation.
Soham Town Rangers! Last season they were playing against Kings Lynn reserves!

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