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   24/07/2008, 5:03 PM
Neil Cluckcaster is not online. Last active: 04/08/2008 11:07:16 Neil Cluckcaster



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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 blahblahblah wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

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Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

Ok Mr. CluckCaster / FriedFriedBrains / whatever you're calling yourself to bump your own propaganda today, who is the man for the job if it ain't Roeder ?  Because good old 'Arry already 'as a job, innit !

Peter Cullum could get "him" (a dynamic personality) here...but Smith will only ever get "left-overs". It all depends on what you're happy with and how limited your ambition.

Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.


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   24/07/2008, 5:10 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

 

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

 

i) Describing our incoming players as 'ordinary' is just idiotic. Hoolihan interested many other championship clubs, they all can't be chasing an 'ordinary' player... Lupoli, once on the books of Arsenal, who have the one of the best records of recruiting young talent. Lupoli also did well on loan at Derby and Norwich were vying for his signature along with Serie A side Udinese and Siena, hardly 'ordinary.' Sammy Clingon was offered a new contract at Nottingham Forest who are splashing the cash and by all accounts many of their fans were gutted to see him go, again hardly 'ordinary'. Elliot Omozusi, on loan from premiership Fulham and is highly thoughtof at Fulham, hardly 'ordinary'. Stefanovic, a Serbian international, who premiership Fulham paid £1million for only a year ago, previously playing for premiership Portsmouth, hardly 'ordinary.' David Bell impressed whilst on loan at Championship side Leciester last season despite the turmoil at the club, hardly 'ordinary'. And finally Ryan Bertrand is on loan from the Premier league runners up, Champions league runner's up Chelsea. Also he ws on loan here last season and I would say if you couldn't see his obivious class then you must be blind, but you probably don't go to games. Hardly 'ordinary' again is it?

ii) Have you ever listend to  Glenn Roeder's team talks? No? Didn't think so. He has manged Premiership sides West Ham and Newcastle. Arsene Wenger rates him and Glenn Roeder is well respected within the coaching community. Just because he doesn't shout his mouth of and play up to the media like Redknapp, that doesn't make him a bad manager.

 

I am not the dreamer who hangs on Cullum's every whim. I am a realist who can see that the incoming players are far better than 'ordinary'. Whilst in an ideal world we would love to have Cullum's millions, we haven't got them. Time to move on and support your team.



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   24/07/2008, 5:11 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.

Neil Cluckcaster wrote the following post at 24/07/2008 5:03 PM:

'Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.'

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Been away for ages, still spouting sh!te. Some things never change.



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   24/07/2008, 5:12 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 blahblahblah wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

 

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

Ok Mr. CluckCaster / FriedFriedBrains / whatever you're calling yourself to bump your own propaganda today, who is the man for the job if it ain't Roeder ?  Because good old 'Arry already 'as a job, innit !

Peter Cullum could get "him" (a dynamic personality) here...but Smith will only ever get "left-overs". It all depends on what you're happy with and how limited your ambition.

Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.

 

'Him'? Perhaps you mean Ian Hollway, he's out of a job. Also he did such a great job last season...



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   24/07/2008, 5:13 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 blahblahblah wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

 

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

Ok Mr. CluckCaster / FriedFriedBrains / whatever you're calling yourself to bump your own propaganda today, who is the man for the job if it ain't Roeder ?  Because good old 'Arry already 'as a job, innit !

Peter Cullum could get "him" (a dynamic personality) here...but Smith will only ever get "left-overs". It all depends on what you're happy with and how limited your ambition.

Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.

So anything she does, you don't like.  Anyone she appoints, you don't like.  And anything that he might do, you will like.

Thanks for clearing up how unbiased and level-headed your opinion is. 

For crying out loud, you can even name a "him" !


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   24/07/2008, 8:27 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

But then Archie Macaulay was hardly a Harry was he. Neither was Ron Saunders. But both could boast seminal achievements in NCFC history. Getting the club up a division with solid runs at both levels thereafter.

If Roeder is two things he is both hardnosed and single-minded - with a point to prove and good current contacts in the game. My instinct says that he might just get lucky too.    

If he does, watch out for a promotion challenge - if not, it could be League 1 here we come. I dont' expect a midtable finish.

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   24/07/2008, 8:55 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

But then Archie Macaulay was hardly a Harry was he. Neither was Ron Saunders. But both could boast seminal achievements in NCFC history. Getting the club up a division with solid runs at both levels thereafter.

If Roeder is two things he is both hardnosed and single-minded - with a point to prove and good current contacts in the game. My instinct says that he might just get lucky too.    

If he does, watch out for a promotion challenge - if not, it could be League 1 here we come. I dont' expect a midtable finish.

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Good lord ... a nearly entirely positive post from Bly! Surprise [:O]

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   24/07/2008, 10:35 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.

I'm not convinced we are entirely on List Q. Certainly Bell & Hoolahan were pretty much the first players mentioned at the end of the season and Bertrand was here last year so again hardly list Q. No idea about Owusumi (?) and what list he was on. Clingan was signed relatively early which again is not indicative of anything more than List B. Stefanovic I will give you as more likely to be second or third choice behind Taylor and maybe Gorkks but he is proven premiership quality. Lupoli could be from any list as he is a rather "leftfield" signing.

Who was on Roeder's A and B lists then? No-one obvious has moved on and only really Evans is likely to be unavailable.

A lot hinges on what striker(s) we bring in before the window closes. Most people were looking at maybe a £2/3 million budget for transfer of which I would guess there may be £1/£1.5M left. If we sell a Croft or a Russell and Lappin then that may be nearer £2.5M which would be enough to secure Rasiak/Amoebi and Rigters.

Much depends on how so many new players gell as if we sign amother new striker then from a likely 1st choice 11 only 4 of them are likely to have been here last year - Marshall, Bertrand/Drury, Doc/Shackell and Russell/Fozzie. We saw last year how the failure to gel a lot of new players together can have disastrous results and not of all Grants summer buys were total rubbish (Marshall, Otsemebor, Russell, Cureton).


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   24/07/2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 blahblahblah wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

 

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

Ok Mr. CluckCaster / FriedFriedBrains / whatever you're calling yourself to bump your own propaganda today, who is the man for the job if it ain't Roeder ?  Because good old 'Arry already 'as a job, innit !

Peter Cullum could get "him" (a dynamic personality) here...but Smith will only ever get "left-overs". It all depends on what you're happy with and how limited your ambition.

Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.




Ah Quackers so great you're back... any chance you can persuade Smudge back? would be so much fun to have to two of you arranging protests again!

you do however have an interesting point... one which, to an extent may be correct and on the other hand is completly invalid. Grant definetly was a yes-Delia man, looking back he tried failed and left with diginity. Roeder on the other hand i was initially gutted to get, but he saved us from the brink and the team hes putting together looks strong, much stronger than last pre season and i'm getting stupidly over optimistic that we may give spurs a run for their money. Point is Quack Quack you can't peck around with theories of Roeder personifying lala until hes had a proper chance to prove himself - he got Grants team playing, now what can he do with his own.

Remember to smile Quacky.

Theres a good lad.

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   24/07/2008, 11:51 PM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
Bly, why?

I'm an unemployed football manager working on an oil rig - get me out of here!
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   25/07/2008, 2:59 AM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.

 Jim Duffy wrote:
Bly, why?

I dunno, Jim.

0-0-3 sound familiar?

Cheer up.

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   25/07/2008, 10:14 AM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

But then Archie Macaulay was hardly a Harry was he. Neither was Ron Saunders. But both could boast seminal achievements in NCFC history. Getting the club up a division with solid runs at both levels thereafter.

If Roeder is two things he is both hardnosed and single-minded - with a point to prove and good current contacts in the game. My instinct says that he might just get lucky too.    

If he does, watch out for a promotion challenge - if not, it could be League 1 here we come. I dont' expect a midtable finish.

OTBC

 

Try looking forwards once in a while. Today and now are amazing.

 

Jumpers for goalposts........


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   25/07/2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

But then Archie Macaulay was hardly a Harry was he. Neither was Ron Saunders. But both could boast seminal achievements in NCFC history. Getting the club up a division with solid runs at both levels thereafter.

If Roeder is two things he is both hardnosed and single-minded - with a point to prove and good current contacts in the game. My instinct says that he might just get lucky too.    

If he does, watch out for a promotion challenge - if not, it could be League 1 here we come. I dont' expect a midtable finish.

OTBC

 

Sadly different days Bly. In those days players were poorly paid...and out there on the pitch because of the game of football itself. A good gaffer was a man in a collar and tie who you respected (and feared) and threat of being dropped meant more than a dent in your inflated "pop-star" ego.

Lets hope you're right about Roeder...but I can't see it. With no leader on the pitch and a lacklustre manager on the bench it will be mediocrity all the way as has been the painfully prudent Delia Smith game plan.

Still....let's hope the restaurant taking are up this year eh?


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   25/07/2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 blahblahblah wrote:
 Neil Cluckcaster wrote:
 BlyBlyBabes wrote:

Who? Glenn.

It'll certainly be his team this season .............. but from List Q.

And if he builds a successful team from List Q we'll be saying sad farewells soon enough unless Cullum comes in and enables him to take things to the next level.

On the other hand...........

OTBC

 

Not only are the incoming players "ordinary" (despite the usual dreamers' fanfare)....Roeder will not be able to motivate them beyond the early stages of the season and into where it starts to hurt......

Far from being the best thing since sliced bread (according to the usual suspects)...he is dull and lacking in the charisma required to bring the best out of limited ability. For that you need a Harry Redknapp....and Roeder will never be a Harry as long as he has a hole in his arse.....

Ok Mr. CluckCaster / FriedFriedBrains / whatever you're calling yourself to bump your own propaganda today, who is the man for the job if it ain't Roeder ?  Because good old 'Arry already 'as a job, innit !

Peter Cullum could get "him" (a dynamic personality) here...but Smith will only ever get "left-overs". It all depends on what you're happy with and how limited your ambition.

Roeder personifies Smith....and that again (like Grant) will ultimately be the problem.

You have obviously forgotten that Pompey have a mega rich owner of their own and that they qualified for europe next season.

You really make me laugh, you came back with your extreme views and to start with worded stuff rationally and well.  Now you have settled back in you have resorted back to the OTT bile you continually spouted until you got banned.  You sir are just as pathetic as the over confident Delia loving brigade.  'Peter Cullum could get him', dont make me laugh, do you honestly believe that!!


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Re: Much to gain. Little to lose.

With no leader on the pitch

Nobody like Serbian International and previous Portsmouth captain Dejan Stefanovic ?  That's a shame, I thought we'd signed him.


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