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   05/06/2008, 5:05 PM
bigbear is not online. Last active: 22/07/2009 19:06:17 bigbear

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Roeder, what do you think of him?

When Roeder 1st came to the club, I wasn't too impressed.  He then turned my thoughts of him around.  Then in the run-in at the end of the season, I went back to being very unsure about him.  His initial team selection left a bit to be desired, then some strange tactics, bad substitutions,  it all went wrong, and we were very lucky not to be relegated.

In some games (usualy just half a match) we were brilliant, in others (or the other half of the match), we were absolutely dreadful, and worse than we were under Grant.  Is there a reason behind that, is anyone to blame??

With what has happened since the start of the closed season, I am very dissappointed with him at present.  Hopefully he will turn it around with some good signings, and it will make me think differently about him again.  I will give him the benefit of any doubt, but I have my suspicions.  I still can't understand why he as been getting rid of the backroom staff, except for money reasons, maybe too many people on the wage bill.  If he repaces every single one of them with someone else, then you have to ask why, because surely, they would all have had some sort of pay-off or redundency package.

Norwich need a good start to the season, and the only way to do that is by getting players in, and he hasn't started doing that yet.  Hopefully the next few weeks will be fruitful in terms of signings.


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   05/06/2008, 5:23 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
can't say I think much of his only permanent signing to date either!
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   05/06/2008, 5:41 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
judging him what he has done so far im impressed the club needed a shake up and hes doing that i just hope he hasnt left himself a mountain to climb but we have to be patient,  he has a plan and if it comes off il have faith in him to take us on the bigger better things. the thing with managing is if you change a squad or make a sub and you win you get all the praise but if it doesnt you get slated yeah some of his decisions made me scratch my head but all managers make mistakes you just have to live with it. my main reason for sticking with him is who else are we going to get thats better, nobody can offer us much as glen his contacts in the game are everything to us without them we would be screwed.  
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   05/06/2008, 5:44 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
IMO I see Roeder as a short term 'fixer upper' type manager.  Excellent in a few short months but in the long term Mr Average.

Obviously I hope he does well and prove me wrong

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   05/06/2008, 6:05 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?

Being serious something that is out of character for me when talking about a sport which is after all all we are discussing. Glen Roeder’s management record is to say the least patchy. This does make me wonder whether his motive is to manoeuvre the club into a situation where they cannot get rid of him because he is the only one who can understand what is going on.

 

In my opinion player loans should be short term to cover unforeseen emergencies or pending a decision whether to buy the said player permanently or not. Loan players merely to prop up and fill the gaps in the squad is a very, very short term strategy fraught with dangers.

 

Mr Roeder needs very careful watching.  


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   05/06/2008, 6:11 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
Next thread "What do you think about all the players we haven't signed yet" Stick out tongue [:P]

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   05/06/2008, 6:31 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
To be fair, he fulfilled his initial task, which was to keep City in the Championship (just!). I'm still unsure whether he'll be good enough in the long term - nobody can say at this moment in time. We'll just have to wait and see what he does in this coming season. He may be good, he may be bad or he might just be indifferent. One thing's for certain, after the sweeping changes both to the backroom staff and the playing staff, he can blame nobody but himself if things go a bit awry this year.
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   05/06/2008, 8:58 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
 Terry Fied wrote:

In my opinion player loans should be short term to cover unforeseen emergencies or pending a decision whether to buy the said player permanently or not. Loan players merely to prop up and fill the gaps in the squad is a very, very short term strategy fraught with dangers.



I'm not so sure. The loan route seems to me a good way to get some  premiership-ish quality which isn't available to be bought permanently. I think last seasons examples did pretty good on the whole.

Roughly what do people think it would have cost to get the equivalent standard of players in permanently?

Roeder seems to have the right sort of contacts to exploit this means of bolstering the team.

Clearly I'd prefer 16 near premership quality permanent players, but perhaps this just isn't realistic for us at the moment.

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   05/06/2008, 9:02 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?

I seriously can't understand the apathy towards Roeder.

He saved us from League 1, got us playing some decent football, and has attracted good players in so far, albeit on loan. I can't see what more he could have done to date.


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   05/06/2008, 9:51 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
 The voice of the Thorpe Area wrote:

I seriously can't understand the apathy towards Roeder.

He saved us from League 1, got us playing some decent football, and has attracted good players in so far, albeit on loan. I can't see what more he could have done to date.



Overall, I'm pleased so far with Roeder. And I'm optimistic for next season.

He did what required and kept us up. And for a while (albeit brief) it looked like he might perform the miraculous and get us into the playoffs. 

However, the drastic reduction in the number of staff, both playing and backroom, sows a seed of doubt in mind. It really could go either way. This transfer window is now absolutely critical. This is making me, and I guess lots of other fans, a little impatient to see some progress.

Until things start to move frustration and nerves are causing me to question my faith.

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   05/06/2008, 10:16 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
Haven't made up my mind yet although I'm pleased he saved us from relegation and not so pleased with some of the stuff he's said and done.
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   05/06/2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
If we dont hit the ground running I can see the fans turning against him especially with Huckerby sitting in the stands.
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   05/06/2008, 10:31 PM
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Hmm [^o)] Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?

Frankly, I think he has performed a minor miracle to keep us up. Remember that horrific feeling in the pit of your stomach after watching the QPR game last season?

I can't fault him or his decisions so far (tho perhaps that winger may have deserved another year...)


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   05/06/2008, 10:34 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
For what it is worth I think he is a victim of his own success.

He got a decent run together with a limited squad and then people feel he should have kept it going. I would agree that some of his tactical decisions were a bit strange but then do we know enough to say that those decisions were not enforced by factors out of his controll. For example we now know that Hux was struggling with his hip on and off this season.

I sometimes wonder that if that run had not been and we had had the same results but in a different order with a much shorter unbeaten streak, would people still be saying he under-achieved towards the end of the season?

Its all about context. If you look at those 12 games as 12 games rather than 12 games in a so-many-game period you realise that for that period the team performed above its average consistancy.

I will wait for my judgement of the man who has completed his first task until I have seen what signings have been made and how we look in pre-season and the first few games of the season.

In all fairness you can't really do anything until then because he may sign a whole load of players we don't like the look of but if he can get someone in and get the best out of them I couldn't care less who it was.

For example Andy Cole - sure he is not the future and all that but you can not tell me that if he comes in and bangs in 15-20goals and we reach the play-offs or better you will still be complaining?

Quite honestly I talk a load of pointless drivel! (According to Smudger).
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   05/06/2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Roeder, what do you think of him?
done a great job so far and deserves a lot more credit than what he is getting from the fans at the minute.
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