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03/07/2009, 4:25 PM Norfolk Dumpling Joined on 08/05/2009 Posts 154 Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? After reading the comments made by John Tilson, Chairman of NCISA, in the EDP this morning (Friday 3rd July) it would be helpful for NCISA to answer the following questions : What has to happen before NCISA can give verbal support to the changes that have been made at Norwich City during the closed season? Does NCISA actually seek the old directors to resign? This does not appear in the NCISA statement after the meeting at St Andrews Hall. Has NCISA stopped supporting the club financially? Is the sponsorship of Ian Butterworth continuing? Is support being given to the Academy? Is the Canary Challenge going to run again this year? What positive actions have NCISA taken to support our club at this time of great need? The statement made by NCISA after the St Andrews Meeting was based on fans who attended the meeting. Has NCISA undertaken any discussions with it's own membership in recent weeks to ascertain if the leadership of NCISA reflects their views?    Report

03/07/2009, 4:57 PM Ankles50 Joined on 02/11/2005 Norwich Posts 119 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? I'd like to know how they collected enough views from the members to be sure NISCA needed to make the statement, i didn't get a call/e-mail/invitation to a sit down to discuss Personally i feel the current NISCA Committee is in desperate need for a personnel overhaul, new blood to take the Association forward, the failings of the Committee to be heard until too late last season needs to be addressed    Report

03/07/2009, 4:59 PM Canaries in Bed Joined on 02/02/2004 Bedfordshire Posts 4,528 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? Sack the lot I say! I don't know how much longer I can continue the delusional long term optimism.    Report

03/07/2009, 5:14 PM cityangel Joined on 18/10/2003 Posts 8,578 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  Ankles50 wrote: I'd like to know how they collected enough views from the members to be sure NISCA needed to make the statement, i didn't get a call/e-mail/invitation to a sit down to discuss Personally i feel the current NISCA Committee is in desperate need for a personnel overhaul, new blood to take the Association forward, the failings of the Committee to be heard until too late last season needs to be addressed   To be fair if they had to contact 500 members to seek their views every time they made a statement we'd have a long wait. They have had a personnel overhaul, there are several new committee members onboard who are making a difference in my humble opinion.    Report

03/07/2009, 6:01 PM GMF Joined on 27/08/2003 Chelmsford Posts 1,145 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? To be fair City Angel, no-one is suggesting that NCISA has to consult all its members before issuing a press statement, just like no-one seriously suggests that NCFC should consult all 18,000 season ticket holders before it appoints a manager. However, all the majority want is an organisation that can issue logical and well reasoned press statements in touch with the commercial realities in which the Club currently finds itself operating. Take a step back, have a hard long look at the organisation and then ask yourself, "does Ankles50's question about change in NCISA apply to the organisation?" "The only place where Success comes before Work is in a dictionary."    Report

03/07/2009, 7:17 PM Smudger Joined on 02/10/2006 Posts 7,130 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  Ankles50 wrote: I'd like to know how they collected enough views from the members to be sure NISCA needed to make the statement, i didn't get a call/e-mail/invitation to a sit down to discuss Personally i feel the current NISCA Committee is in desperate need for a personnel overhaul, new blood to take the Association forward, the failings of the Committee to be heard until too late last season needs to be addressed I raised this issue last season when they arranged the meet at Carrow Road with Doomy and Munby that Gunny walked in to late on and at the meeting previous to that just before Lee Clark left. How many of you were listening at that time though? It is easy to come up with such things in hindsight isn't it? NCISA are doing about as much as can be done prior to the new season kicking off. If they decide to get back on the positive side of the fence prior to the new boardroom and manager proving that they have put a decent team together on the pitch then they will deserve every bit of criticism that is aimed at them. I am sure that we will not see ANKLES50 pushing them in to action or demanding changes to the NCISA leadership, or setting up an opposing fan group though. "Are you hopeful, or just gullible???" *Russian Literature, Maximo Park (2007) "Smudger now theres a thing , the thing you must all remember is that they are all Norwich City fans and we must love them for that" . arrdee"    Report

03/07/2009, 7:21 PM Norfolk Dumpling Joined on 08/05/2009 Posts 154 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? But please, will someone from NCISA actually answer the questions posed at the beginning of this thread?    Report

03/07/2009, 7:22 PM Smudger Joined on 02/10/2006 Posts 7,130 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  cityangel wrote:  Ankles50 wrote: I'd like to know how they collected enough views from the members to be sure NISCA needed to make the statement, i didn't get a call/e-mail/invitation to a sit down to discuss Personally i feel the current NISCA Committee is in desperate need for a personnel overhaul, new blood to take the Association forward, the failings of the Committee to be heard until too late last season needs to be addressed   To be fair if they had to contact 500 members to seek their views every time they made a statement we'd have a long wait. They have had a personnel overhaul, there are several new committee members onboard who are making a difference in my humble opinion. Do you have any intentions of joining the committee if they prove their worth over the coming few months CA??? "Are you hopeful, or just gullible???" *Russian Literature, Maximo Park (2007) "Smudger now theres a thing , the thing you must all remember is that they are all Norwich City fans and we must love them for that" . arrdee"    Report

03/07/2009, 7:23 PM Ankles Joined on 15/11/2008 Posts 51 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? Having met you in person i know you do not have quite the same vocality when you have to use your voice, i on the other hand am quite prepared to take action as well as words.  I am taking a general view at the working operation of the group and will submit my constructive recommendations for consumption by the committee. Failing that i can always follow your stance and start name calling & pigtail pulling perhaps    Report

03/07/2009, 7:24 PM Smudger Joined on 02/10/2006 Posts 7,130 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  Fred wrote: But please, will someone from NCISA actually answer the questions posed at the beginning of this thread? I could have a good go at answering most of them Questions based on what I know of what has been said at NCISA committee meetings Fred, but it is not really my place to do so. "Are you hopeful, or just gullible???" *Russian Literature, Maximo Park (2007) "Smudger now theres a thing , the thing you must all remember is that they are all Norwich City fans and we must love them for that" . arrdee"    Report

03/07/2009, 7:26 PM Smudger Joined on 02/10/2006 Posts 7,130 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  Ankles wrote: Having met you in person i know you do not have quite the same vocality when you have to use your voice, i on the other hand am quite prepared to take action as well as words.  I am taking a general view at the working operation of the group and will submit my constructive recommendations for consumption by the committee. Failing that i can always follow your stance and start name calling & pigtail pulling perhaps I think you already have followed my stance as you put it... "Are you hopeful, or just gullible???" *Russian Literature, Maximo Park (2007) "Smudger now theres a thing , the thing you must all remember is that they are all Norwich City fans and we must love them for that" . arrdee"    Report

03/07/2009, 8:19 PM USAcanary Joined on 07/03/2004 Posts 1,288 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? When group like NCISA has the support of people like Smudger (who think we should be driven into Admin) and the support of CA and Cluck is God who would be "sick" if the club was successful ........... Then you know its basically turned into a "hating" organisation......... They are basically becoming totally irrelevant and have been overtaken by more professional fan groups. The directors group went about things the correct way. They (as fans) put their money where their mouths were and bought a decent chunk of ownership in the club They were EXTREMELY vocal about how badly the club was being run at the board level (which we can all agree on) but always remained professional in their dealings with the club. It was never personal or spiteful. It was always constructive, they offered alternative ideas/help. Nothing that would directly hurt the club. Eventually their patience/professionalism paid off and Mr Alan Bowkett was offered the position of chairman despite being a very vocal critic of the board. /END OF    Report

03/07/2009, 8:28 PM Cluck Joined on 20/10/2006 Posts 1,927 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  USAcanary wrote: When group like NCISA has the support of people like Smudger (who think we should be driven into Admin) and the support of CA and Cluck is God who would be "sick" if the club was successful ........... Then you know its basically turned into a "hating" organisation......... They are basically becoming totally irrelevant and have been overtaken by more professional fan groups. The directors group went about things the correct way. They (as fans) put their money where their mouths were and bought a decent chunk of ownership in the club They were EXTREMELY vocal about how badly the club was being run at the board level (which we can all agree on) but always remained professional in their dealings with the club. It was never personal or spiteful. It was always constructive, they offered alternative ideas/help. Nothing that would directly hurt the club. Eventually their patience/professionalism paid off and Mr Alan Bowkett was offered the position of chairman despite being a very vocal critic of the board. /END OF You haven't got a clue have you?  The day I support any such organisation will be the same day I start likeing Yanks... In other words..never..... Your argument then is both pointless and misguided... I fear however that CA will be less than pleased with being dumped in the same camp as Cluck. Go bomb North Korea and start another war. It's been soooooo long since the last one.    Report

03/07/2009, 8:34 PM USAcanary Joined on 07/03/2004 Posts 1,288 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions?  Cluck is God wrote:  USAcanary wrote: When group like NCISA has the support of people like Smudger (who think we should be driven into Admin) and the support of CA and Cluck is God who would be "sick" if the club was successful ........... Then you know its basically turned into a "hating" organisation......... They are basically becoming totally irrelevant and have been overtaken by more professional fan groups. The directors group went about things the correct way. They (as fans) put their money where their mouths were and bought a decent chunk of ownership in the club They were EXTREMELY vocal about how badly the club was being run at the board level (which we can all agree on) but always remained professional in their dealings with the club. It was never personal or spiteful. It was always constructive, they offered alternative ideas/help. Nothing that would directly hurt the club. Eventually their patience/professionalism paid off and Mr Alan Bowkett was offered the position of chairman despite being a very vocal critic of the board. /END OF You haven't got a clue have you?  The day I support any such organisation will be the same day I start likeing Yanks... In other words..never..... Your argument then is both pointless and misguided... I fear however that CA will be less than pleased with being dumped in the same camp as Cluck. Go bomb North Korea and start another war. It's been soooooo long since the last one.    Report

03/07/2009, 8:36 PM USAcanary Joined on 07/03/2004 Posts 1,288 Re: Can NCISA clarify it's position and answer the following questions? Oh and thank you for proving my point you are nothing but a hate filled person.    Report

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