Norwich City boss Chris Hughton warns the Canaries to cut out the defensive charity after Fulham loss

Norwich City boss Chris Hughton sufferd a rough ride in his first Premier League game at the helm for the Canaries who crashed 5-0 at Martin Jol's Fulham. Picture: Andrew Tobin / Focus Images Norwich City boss Chris Hughton sufferd a rough ride in his first Premier League game at the helm for the Canaries who crashed 5-0 at Martin Jol's Fulham. Picture: Andrew Tobin / Focus Images

Saturday, August 18, 2012
6:03 PM

Chris Hughton has warned his Norwich City players to cut out the basic defensive errors or risk a long Premier League struggle this campaign after a 5-0 opening day hammering at Fulham.

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City’s wretched recent run at Craven Cottage continued with Hughton’s first competitive match in charge turning into a torturous afternoon in the sweltering temperatures by the Thames. Hughton will leave the post-mortems until Monday morning after reviewing a video nasty of his side’s defensive charity over the weekend.

Damien Duff got the ball rolling for Martin Jol’s men with a cool finish after the City back four had been caught sleeping and they doubled their lead thanks to a Mladen Petric header before half-time.

The Croatian made it 3-0 early in the second period when his long range effort took a wicked deflection off Michael Turner to leave John Ruddy helpless. But the goal of the afternoon came when a flowing move involving Petric and Moussa Dembele ended with Alex Kacaniklic sliding past Ruddy.

Norwich’s misery was complete in the 85th minute when Michael Turner brought down Hugo Rodallega and substitute Steve Sidwell hammered home the penalty.

“It was an awful day for us. It was tough watching,” he said. “The first game of the season you want to get off to a good start. We knew it was going to be difficult because these are a good side. These days they don’t lose many games here but for there were pivotal moments in the game. I thought for the first 25 minutes, our team shape was quite good even though we weren’t quite as big a threat as I would have liked. We looked solid and resillient in our shape. Goals change games and we conceded two poor goals in that first half period. Four of the goals were for me really avoidable and that is the most disappointing aspect. It is an area we had looked very solid in pre-season. We went with five in midfield. We know it can happen. We know we are playing a really tough league and for me what is more important now is the type of reaction we get.”

110 comments

  • As you so rightly say Wisemanthree: we let in five goals...

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • 2nd para It wasn't just the goalkeeper who let the score mount up, nor the defence, it was the whole team, and their attitude towards the first match of the season.

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • An absolutely dire display. Clueless in all areas of the pitch. It was a total embarrasment. The summer signings are not good enough for this league; Holt needs better support and assistance, as well as another good striker to play alongside him. Hopefully Hughton and the players will work out what went wrong and come up with a display to take 3 point from QPR next week AND keep a clean sheet. OTBC!!

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I wonder if you could do Leeds another favour , we still have a few more players we need to move on, could you be interested

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    kingbilly

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Ref. Ar-chant naughty boy list, 2 bits of my squit were IN the EDP this week in "On-line comments". Strange how hard I have to work to get things on these boards but they randomly select stuff to publish in their rag. Even items that had originally been ethered. Isn`t that a form of "Duplication"?

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • apologies for repeating myself, but there could be 3 players available

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    kingbilly

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • After a display like that the first thing PL would have done was to apologise to the fans I did not hear that from CH. We were second best in all aspects of the game

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    leslie cater

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I kept looking in the city technical area today expecting to see Peter Grant because it was just like his era at city, clueless

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    leslie cater

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Post a comment about our feeder club and yes it was ethered!

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • I will be shocked if this isn't ethered. What the hell are you lot on about?! ONE game and people are already calling for CH's head?! How pathetic are you? Pre-Season friendlies are but that - friendlies. They mean sod all really and is just a way for players to get fit again after the summer splurge. We played at Craven Cottage - somewhere VERY difficult to win at. Yes, we let in 5 goals, but we've never exactly been overly confident in defence have we?! Am sick to death of all the whiners on here. Bad formation choice, agreed, but to harp on about PL like he was some messiah - let's not forget we lost hell of a lot of games with him at the helm too. It's idiots like you who put additional pressure on players and managers who have enough pressure as it is! Grow up and reserve your name-bashing until the season is over.

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    wisemanthree

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Wisemanthree----where were you yesterday?

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • This is becoming Bedlam. We will finish 19th with no points, no goals scored, 190 conceded. QPR 20th on alphabetical order only.

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • It wasn't just our defence that was charitable, but that we didn't offer anything at all going forward.

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    NrflkM

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Well if you're a home and away season ticket holder who wails like a baby on the basis of one defeat them perhaps you should have used that season ticket money more wisely and invest in something less likely to cause you emotional distress. Idiot.

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    wisemanthree

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Feeder club

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • All the little Stew Pydsodds who understand Norwich City can tell you that Holt needs Hoolahan..AND! Hoolahan needs HOLT aka Morecambe and Wise

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • For some reason the performance yesterday seemed similar to the lack-lustre, disjointed and passionless display when we were soundly beaten last season by MK Dons. I agree, we shouldn't judge the team on its first performance of the season but it is fair to point out the deficiencies, which were many and too obvious. I know people will argue that pre-season friendlies count for nothing - true, the results do not. But the way the team is set up, the style of play etc certainly does have meaning and things can and indeed should be read from pre-season games, especially when they come very close to the opening of the league campign.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • It wasn't the defeat, but the manner of defeat that was so disappointing. Shoring up the defense on its own won't win games. Scoring goals wins games and we seem to have lost all idea how to. Under PL, you knew the team would have a real go. The close support play has gone, players were isolated. They didn't look like they'd ever played together before, or cared whether they would ever do so again. Glad I didn't travel100+ miles, and pay tens of pounds, to watch it!

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    canarydownunder

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Shocking and very dissapointing, Fulham turned up to play football, NCFC turned up for a picnic in the sun by the Thames. Display was poor, passion was invisible. As for leaving the Post-Mortem untill monday... NO Get them in today and show them the video and then get them out training untill they know how to pass again....

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    CanarySid

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Typo -- there was NO drive the team

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    Singapore Canary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I agree with you.

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    sibs Wesley

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • It's Stew Pydsodd, mulling over that scare line yesterday. You are rite on the bitten Pa ! It wusn't just the goolie who let the score mount up, nor the defence, it was the whole team, and their attitude towards the farst match of the season. The blame for this must be laid well and truly at the feet of the manager, and his back up boys, and the preparation for the days ahead. Team spirit is essential! It was cummon knewledge that Lambert was not ruinning the show last season, and McNally, having seen him through the door, made the terrible mistoke of parting company with Culverhouse. AND, All the little Stew Pydsodds who understand Norwich City can tell you that Holt needs Hoolahan..AND! Hoolahan needs HOLT aka Morecambe and Wise

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Was at the game yesterday,firstly I dont think it is right for CH to be openly critical of his players in what is his first game in charge,bad man management in my book and something him we cannot mention would not have done,secondly although the defence wasnt great that was not the problem,for the first 30 mins we were solid but the insistence of playing 5 in midfield is getting us nowhere,we spent all the time passing sideways and leaving GH isolated up front eventually Fulham came into it and got the goals,second half was a bit better with two up front but the players seem unsure of what to do and lacking in direction and I agree some of the drive and enthusiasm of last season seem to be missing. Morro is at best a good championship player and Tierney I dont think will cut it in the premier league,we need a proven striker to play alongside GH and sort out the formation-diamond sounds good to me

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    canaryjon

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Blimey wisemanthree, strong words indeed! Wise words nonetheless. ;-)

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Maybe if you were a home & away season ticket holder then you might exspect a bit more from the team 'nuff said.

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • It's Stew Pydsodd, mulling over that scare line yesterday. You are rite on the bitten Pa ! !

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Big improvement in defence, lasted out for 25 mins. before the clean sheet went.

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    goldie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Are you sure we have the right man as manager, maybe we should look at his tactics because pre season wasn't much better was it.

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    sibs Wesley

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Oh Mighty Whites...forever solid in their mediocrity. No ambition, no desire and a bit boring. At least at Carrow Road we always have something to fight for. It might be a consistent battle for promotion or against relegation but fight we will and I've enjoyed that far more than sitting in the middle of any table. Why was it their last manager left? Fulham have no ambition.

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    NrflkM

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Two of Houghton’s comments were revealing “You cannot go to teams like Fulham and attack” On that basis we might expect to be on the offensive 3 or at best 4 times this season. Fulham are not Man City, or Arsenal. If we are to approach 15 of our away games hoping merely to keep out the opposition (as Worthington did) we will go down. It was our away points that kept us up last year. “I was pleased with our shape the first 25 minutes” Our shape was essentially 1-9-1 for most of that time. It was all too obvious that a Fulham goal was coming, the only question being when. If you wish to defend like that Pilkington, Snodgrass or Sturman are not the obvious choices as cover. Neither does it make sense to try and “fit” Snodgrass or Sturman into the role Hoolihan fulfils naturally. But if we adopt this approach and hope to steal a goal on the break to use Grant Holt as a lone striker is pointless. Goals on the break require pace. Grant will score goals for us but not in that role.

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    Grasshopper

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Watched rubbish tv match today, our

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Radio Norfolk kept saying that the Board had done their homework on CH . If they had , they`d have known why Newcastle sacked him , as I reported , and a simple Google for Holt and Calderwood would reveal the history between Captain and Assistant Manager . The fact is , NCFC got lucky when they appointed PL , you need more than dumb luck and hope to pick a manager capable of keeping a side in a healthy Premier League position .

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    dragonfly

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • If we were in any doubt about quite what our change of manager would bring the first game of this season brutally made clear our new reality. I say this not because we lost, nor even that we lost heavily. It was the different approach of Chris Houghton to Paul Lambert that will matter more. This is not to say that Houghton may not keep us up, or turn out to be a good appointment. But it is to say that the audacity of Lambert and his ambition to win every match will be replaced by a more cautious and defensive approach. For us supporters the fairy tale of the last 3 years is over. In truth results since last Xmas had pointed that way, a large part of the reason Lambert left I am sure. We might cling on this season it would be in its way an achievement. But no more will we go to teams like Spurs and Arsenal and attack them.

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    Grasshopper

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Oh well, at least we have a squad of Chumpionship players ready for next season!

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    troublesome1

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • oops. I really hope we have a plan B, as many more of these plan A's will absolutely put us in the mire. Holt needs help and I still have trouble believing that the 2 centre backs today were better than Dani A.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Is Robert Earnshaw still the most expensive purchase by NCFC?

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • My first comments here so hope I don't' get ethered I or may never come back! If we NCFC fans want to be 'useful' to our team, we better stop bashing the new manager after one competitive game in charge and give him and team a huge warm welcome next weekend. On paper, going to Craven Cottage with 4-5-1 is not tactically flawed if you don't want to ship too many goals and want to push up on counter attacks. The problem was with Fulham playing well and us not able to hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds, we had attacking midfielders playing defensively (and badly). GH was totally isolated because we couldn't get or keep the ball, and with midfield overrun our defence started making some individual errors which compounded the pain with quick soft goals. It was horrible to watch. Hughton changed players in the game, but not the tactics, which once it all started to fall apart should have happened. We needed to start keeping the ball and getting into more positive positions to put more pressure on Fulham, break up their confident passing, and give GH support. Easy right? Not when you are 2 and then 3 nil down away. But I believe Hughton is a smart man with a good track record. He will learn from this, and we need to fully support him whilst he does. I'd love to see 4-3-1-2, but predict 4-4-2 next week, with Morrison partnering Holt, and Hoolahan back in. But the attacking intent will need to change as well, with a return to our own confident passing and movement from midfield. Support Hughton and give them all a big cheer next week. OTBC!!

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    VancouverCanary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Like Swiss C have also been ethered. Dispiriting when you try and contribute something vaguely thoughtful, and haven't got the energy for blackdog2's approach.

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    Michael D

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Face up to reality, how many games has Ruddy played in since being at Norwich and how many clean sheets has he had. Yes the defence is ghastly but someone that got a game for England, stop making excuses and face reality, we deserve much better.

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    Paul Platten

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • As others have said, to only blame the defence is to miss the point. We looked off the pace right throughout the team. I only watched MOTD, but from what I saw there was no pressure on the ball from anyone and that for me is the foundation stone. Without it you can't defend properly and you can't start to put the opposition under pressure. I hope that a few home truths were said behind closed doors because that wasn't good enough. For those who harp back to Lambert, I seem to remember that we were pretty inept at Craven Cottage last time around as well. Hughton is a good manager and can prove his worth and turn this around, but he has to do it fast. This is an unforgiving league and you don't want to let a bad start build its own momentum or you will get cut adrift. Here's hoping for a performance next week against QPR.

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    Preston Canary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • @leslie cator......I agree, we should have tried to keep Whitbread and also put an offer in for Naughton. Both were brilliant last season. But then again if the play is up the other end we shouldnt have to worry about our defence too much! In view of that Holt and Jackson up front with Hoolihan behind should give qpr plenty to think about. I'm sure Hughton will sort things out so lets all get behind him and the lads on Saturday.....OTBC!!

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    Mellow_Yellow

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Next Saturdays losers will be seriously bottom of the prem.

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    Lobbo

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • They did'nt even look confident as they got off the coach----Sat; already a must win game

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Isn't this the same mighty whites who just signed Diouf?

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    wisemanthree

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • I agree with wisemanthree and vancouver about the negativity. It reminds me of all the miseries who have always seemed to be standing behind me (more standing than sitting) in the 59 years I have been going to Carrow Road. One misplaced pass and the groans start ... One five nil drubbing doesn't have to ruin the whole season, Lambert's teams also shipped some goals in their time and don't forget that Fulham also put five past Newcastle a few months ago. Please turn up next Saturday and CHEER on CH and the team!

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    Johnny Gavin Lives

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I wonder if Archant can tell me what is offensive about that comment!

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • I blame Ged. He said he was going to have word with CH and whatever he said has put us on completely the wrong track. I think it might be best if he leaves CH (and the rest of us) alone for a while

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    Sumo27

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • HA! HA! SUCCESS!

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Where was I yesterday? I was carrying on with my life as per normal, thinking to myself "I'm proud to be a Norwich supporter". Yes, I was disappointed when I saw the scoreline but I certainly wasn't going on here and whining about a single result. Wise up people, we're Norwich; we don't have oodles of cash like Man City so cannot buy the best players nor can we attract management like Mourinho nor will ever do. I'm sure you're all grown up men (and women), 'nuff said.

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    wisemanthree

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Well I must confess I didn't see this coming. Whilst most of us were predicting a defeat I wasn't expecting a drubbing. The other thing I wasn't expecting are some of the most vile and abusive posts I've seen on this messageboard. How Archant have let them through I will never know. Quite frankly its disgraceful and in all honesty I am going to think twice before I participate again. Its horrible to say the least. I still have confidence in CH but I do hope he learns quickly from this because if not we are going to be in serious trouble. On a more positive note, apparently Aston Villa were dire against West Ham and deservedly lost. So all is not roses. OTBC

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    Canarygirl

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Look at it this way, if we have the same points and 2 goals inferior than Liverpool at the end of the season, we'll be all right, I hope.

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    paddycanary

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Grasshopper has it; there were shades, very dark shades, of Worthington in that performance. 1-9-1 indeed! No more of that please.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Truly gruesome. Now that's enough about this prehistoric excuse for a website. Do we all think the new manager's getting his message across? Seems like 'shoulder arms' to me. There's always a reason why good players turn 'bad' overnight. Even Canarygirl's lost her eternal optimism. Things can only get better, etc...

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    el dingo

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Wasn't mighty white that dodgy white bread said to be a bit more nutritious but really just had a few seeds in it?

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    NrflkM

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Fragmentation!!!! How on earth could this have been unsuitabe as a whole????

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Just an afterthought, earlier today I watched a Mickey Mouse type of game featuring our feeder club, what drivel and the punters pay to watch it! I turned off.

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • I am amazed that for someone who watched all the videos of last season put out such a formation

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Bad result, yes but it is only the first game. New manager with new ideas managing his first competitive game. He will sort this out but we need to stay with him and not get on his case after one game. There are still 37 games left to go.

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    CovCanary

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Clueless and shocking

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    aeleven

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Ref dragonfly; that Holt\Calderdash history is not good. Nor is Bewilderwood`s management CV. I`ve thought for a while that something might have to give there and WFLGH, so.......

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Still in silent shock over the result,I was waiting for BBC to say there had been a display error with it. There certainly was a display error......with the team. The losing team next Saturday will really be in trouble, lets hope it is QPR.

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    terry brock

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I wonder if you could do Leeds another favour , we still have a few more players we need to move on, could you be interested

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    kingbilly

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I wonder if you could do Leeds another favour , we still have a few more players we need to move on, could you be interested

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    kingbilly

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I agree with CovCanCanary how we were set up for this match we were never likely to score. O n another aspect how on earth did we lose Whitbread and end up with Turner.

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    leslie cater

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • GH has neither the speed or skill to play alone in attack - if he has no support, there is no point in him playing!

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    Geffy1

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I agree with you.

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    sibs Wesley

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Very concerning was the lack of confidence shown all over the pitch.The extent and manner of the defeat can only make this worse.Despite only having 2 new players they looked like a different side to last season,anything but a team which was perhaps the greatest strength last season.Very worrying.

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    Peter Watson

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Very true MB in regards to "it's the response that counts." Despite the nature of this result being disappointing and rightfully everybody stating their concern, myself included... If we looked at this fixture on paper the points we came away with was always the most likely outcome. Hopefully this triggers a big response and the hunger and determination embedded into each and every one of our players.

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    Billy

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Perhaps I meant "Duplicity".

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Will people stop going on about PL, look at the results from the last dozen or so games last year, it was relegation form. We were lucky that had the points in the bag. Same defense as last year = same errors as last year, compounded by lack of supply to striker this time

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    DaveG

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • , at least I could turn off!

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • well blackdog once ar -chant have you on their naughty boy list most of your comments take one long time to appear -if they do

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Lets see if we can beat our own Premier League record of giving away a penalty in our opening games. Last year it was a pen in all of our first 5 games I think. Next weeks loser will seriously be the Prem's bot tom club.

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    Lobbo

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • and to think they have to pay to watch that

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Multiple etherings - I give in see you all later, much later

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • On paper this team is stonger, more balanced than last season, and should not be performing to this level. The training ground is the place to make players work together and ANYONE not willing or unable to comply must be shown the door...FAST!

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    Pa Snipps

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • I made my first trip to Fulham’s ALL SEATER stadium and bought tickets for SEATS. On the hottest day of the year, my wife and I were unable to stand for long periods and therefore missed the entire first half and much of the second half, as Norwich fans refused all requests to sit down. I expect the crowd to jump up at key moments of the game, as do I, but to stand for most of the game ruined it for those who could not. I watched my first game at Carrow Road in 1962 and have always respected Canary followers, but yesterday was a selfish display, led by the so called die-hard supporters, with no thought for others. The stewards were ineffectual, but that is no excuse. Thanks for ruining the start of my 50th season as a supporter!

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    Russianality

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Must say----they did'nt look confident as they stepped off the coach. Saturday is already a must win day.

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • My main concern is that why tactics that had noticeably little attacking success in the last four friendly matches were still employed, and why the earlier pre-season goal-getter James Vaughan has not been deployed for anything other than snatches of time in any of these matches. So I'd certainly like to sense that CH has more tactical variety and adaptability than his early form has shown - that was probably PL's real strength. But CH has a different style, which players do not appear to be used to yet, and he has achieved better results than were expected at Birmingham and Newcastle. He is not in the players' heads yet, in fact what is probably in their heads is that he is not Lambert - or perhaps not Culverhouse. Hughton with his more laid back style still needs to get some urgency and commitment into their heads. Also, presumably, there is a plan to fill the vacant #5 shirt, otherwise releasing Whitbread and letting Ayala go out on a season long loan seems foolish.

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    Michael D

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Wisemanthree----where were you yesterday?

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Look at it this way, if we have the same points and 2 goals inferior than Liverpool at the end of the season, we'll be all right, I hope.

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    paddycanary

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • Perhaps our 6 goals at the cottage were ethered too?

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    NrflkM

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • It was a dismal evening as I sat here watching this game with 10pm kick-off here. Much has been said about lack of defence, lack of attack - to me and canarydownunder touched on it is that there was drive in the team the spirit has gone and the close teamwork has gone. Positives out of this, will only be if they learn from it and prodduce against QPR next week. Even regulars at my local here questioned what has happened, more the manner of the loss than the loss. I would ask that the 26 odd thousand hopefully at Carrow Road next week gets behind the team! OTBC

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    Singapore Canary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Whatever stone "thewhites" crawled out from he needs to hurriedly return to, this kind of inane idiotic gutter comment is not welcome on here and it is good to see the jocular banter prevail and our posters rise above this uneducated twit!

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    blackdog2

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • If you play in the foreign league, you need foreign players....simples....all the other clubs have got them !!

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    billythebookie

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Please note that there are other regular contributors being troubled by multiple ethering. It HAS to be more down to incompetence than malice. Who`s ever seen a malicious Womble? Swiss Canary must not retire!

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • In all fairness I expected this. Craven Cottage is like a nightmare for us, and let us not forget that we have a new manager, some new signings and are in the best league (arguably) in the world. It takes time for things to settle. It is better for CH to see what improvements are needed NOW than in January when the season is pretty much already done and dusted. As for the trolls, in all honesty, I couldn't give a toss. It's not my life that is being wasted...

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    wisemanthree

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Well! Im getting there!

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Btw, I`m sticking with my original prediction really: 49 points, 10th. One craven display at the cottage doesn`t mean the season`s over. 37 to go.

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    Mad Brewer

    Monday, August 20, 2012

  • HIGHLY EMBARRISSING OR WHAT!

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    goldie

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Come on friends there's no need at all for all this negativity!! You need to support the team with all your heart, through good times and bad, just like I do!! I know we awful and going to be an embarrassment all season, but don't let it get you down.....it's not worth it, just accept we are hopeless and get on with it. All the best pals! Love from Gerald Steroo, your friend.

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    Ged Steroo

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Wisemanthree----where were you yesterday?

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Ah well, I tried. Perhaps it`ll appear in print in EDP`s "On-line comments" column again?

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • That's most of that lot that played yesterday.

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    superfan59

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • The Previous Leader (PL) once said, rather irritably, to a journo "Da ye expect me tae cruticaise ma players fer drawin` a futeball match?"

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • swansea had enough sence to take time to pick a mamager who complimented the players they have we get a defencive manager and back room staff to coach attack minded players the board will have a lot to answer to if we carry on playing this way. thing is he thinks turner, barnett ,ward are better than ayala what a bellend.

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    123stu

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • first comment about having a plan B vanishes into the ether , then a comment to blackdog and i get error 503 and that one appears twice . ? How long will it take to get the international clearance for our new spanish defender.

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • A birthday that I will not forget in a long while. I agree with Billy that in the absence of any attacking threat, Fulham could just get on with the turkey shoot. It all fell apart pretty quickly and nobody had a clue about how to put it back together. The manager must know that the team needs to believe they can win, it will not happen by accident. I am in the wilderness for two weeks and I hope that when I come back, City are also out of the wilderness.

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    Swiss Canary

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • If you play in the foreign league, you need foreign players....simples....all the other clubs have got them !!

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    billythebookie

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • When Hughton came in, players were saying in this paper that things were laid back. Hence this score

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    Steve

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • no passion,no bite in midfield,long balls up to holt, who could do nothing on his own and a defence that would concede goals in league 1,what a poor effort.All those players need to realise is that they are not as good as they think they are.we need at least another full back and a centre half who can hold the defensive line.oh and a midfielder who can tackle and pass the ball to a team mate.why do we let teams dominate for long periods?tackles should have been flying in to disrupt fulhams p##s take.lets see some passion and yellow cards!its going to be a long season unless a massive improvement is made.

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    tonyb

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • Not defence that's the problem, Chris. If you sit back and don't have anythinganyone in attack for 90 minutes then a combination of the best 4 defenders in the world would eventually concede, if there was anything happening at the other end then maybe the defenders wouldn't have to sit there taking a pasting for 90 minutes, sort it out and make their defence think about something rather than making ours take the mother of all pressures, rant over.

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    Billy

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • 3rd para.. The blame for this must be laid well and truly at the feet of the manager, and his back up boys, and the preparation for the days ahead. Team spirit is essential!

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    Stew Pydsodd

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • “It is quite obvious that to say an improvement on our league position would be an outstanding achievement. We have made absolutely no targets here. The only requirements we have is that the players give all they can. That is what the football club saw from them last season.” Was it hard to see that Hughton would be wrong on both counts? Now the Board knows what it lost, and with it, PL status.

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    Mike Jones

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • well blackdog once ar -chant have you on their naughty boy list most of your comments take one long time to appear -if they do

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    wivenhoebudgie

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • Apologies in advance for commening on the comments of others, but I think the "PL" Mike Jones was referring to was the Premier League, while cdu`s was the previous manager! I`m easily confused! DaveG`s comment ref the last dozen games last season is apposite. We managed 12 points, scoring 14 goals and conceding just 23. 23!! Oddly, in that there were really good performances v Spurs, Arsenal & Everton, plus home spankings from ManC & Liverpool. But that`s history; we need to get 40 points THIS season, we have 37 more games in which to achieve that. Big-up, City!!

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    Mad Brewer

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • This was the most inept Norwich performance since Bryan Gunn got sacked 3 years ago!! There were no positives in any department. We are toothless!! WE NEED A STRIKER....and we only have a week left to find one. On todays showing £6.5 Million for Jordan Rhodes would be excellent business. A new centre half might be a good idea as well. We need to bounce back next week against QPR! But hang on.....they got beaten 5-0 as well.....and THEY need to bounce back as well!!! We cant BOTH bounce back!!! Mr Hughton and his team have a mountain to climb! An attacking strategy wouldn't be a bad idea.

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    Algarve Canary

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • As the platitude-mongers @ Ar-chant Tower might say, it`s time to kick on. 37 games to go. Billy is right; to go to an away game with no discernible attacking threat is a throw-back to the Worthington Premier era. That was when we did not win a single away game in our single season up there before sinking back to the Championship. Very disappointing stuff. It`s the response that counts now...... OTBC.

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    Mad Brewer

    Saturday, August 18, 2012

  • To be honest the writing was on the wall after watching the two recent pre-season friendlies. I know we were behind both overseas opponents in terms of fitness but the way the team was set up seemed all wrong. We did well last season because we surprised a lot of teams with our attacking intentions. Ok we couldn't keep a clean sheet for love nor money. But we won games and points. I fear we will struggle if we set our stall out this season to defend in such depth. 4-4-2 does not suit us. Yes we faded late on last year but overall we showed enough commitment and atacking inention to keep us in the Prem.

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    malaga flier

    Sunday, August 19, 2012

  • That said, tactics were clearly wrong. We are not used to playing defensively. All our results over the last 3 years came because we attacked the opposition. Whatever changes CH brings in this must remain the same as it is what our team is built for. Asking attack minded players to play defensively doesn't work. Let's get back to offensive football. It's how we roll!

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    CovCanary

    Monday, August 20, 2012

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